Die Verbrechen der "Pseudo-Punks"

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von diesem prs + mesa boogie gelaber halt ich mal garnix - das is einfach ne funktionierende & gute kombination und wenn man sich git. jetzt "verdienen" muß dann wird die auswahl doch bald recht schnell zusammenschrumpfen da dann wohl einige firmen pleite gehen werden -.-
außerdem haste mal wieder nich aufgepasst :p weil busted z.b. garkeine prs benutzen sondern eigentlich nur gibson -.-
die spieln sogar teilweise marshall die von dir genannten bands - tjo wirst ihn wohl verbrennen müssen -.-
 
ich würde sum 41 nich zusammen mit avril un bustet nennen
die habn mit denen (im weitesten sinne ) nix zu tun!!! ich denk die holn sich son scheiß teures equip nur um zu prolln wie toll se doch sind
(ich kotz gleich) jaja un ich denk die nehmen marshall un pearl weil selbst leute die keine instrumente spieln die kennen und außerdem fördert das den absatz von diesen teilen

mfg
geisterfahrer :mrgreen:
 
Jep,sum41 is echt ne andere liga.schau dir die mal live an,das is was ganz anderes;)
 
sorry leute


ich finde auch sum 41 ist eine andere liga weil sie wenigstens live auch live spielen


MfG Lucki
 
Ok dann sag ich mal was zu busted: Ich habe die mal auf ARD gesehen, da waren die bei irgendso einer Kindersendung (ich glaube die Sendung mit der Maus oder so ähnlich). Auf jeden Fall hatten sie dann vor all den kleinen 5-12 Jährigen ihren Auftritt. Das war natürlcih Voll-Playback. Alle drei hatten sich Giatarren umgeschnallt, (Sogar recht gute/teure Teile) und haben dann dauernd so getan als wenn se irgendeinen Akkord spielen. Es waren natürlich keine Verstärker oder sonst was da, nur die drei Typen mit ihren Gitarren, die noch nicht mal verkabelt waren.

lächerlich... :D
 
Hi Leute,

Ihr trifftet da ziemlich vom Thema ab. ;)
Geht doch mal wieder auf das Topic ein.
 
Ach, naja ich glaub ich nenn den Thread um... :D
 
Gute Namenwahl :D !

Benni :twisted:
 
ja gute namenwahl:

zu verbrechen der pseudo punks: sie wollen einem mit ihrer politischen überzeugung überzeugen und widersprechen sich leider immer wieder

und:


pseudopunkbands schreiben ihre songs nicht selber, ihre texte werden ihnen aufgezwungen --> wo bleibt da der punk :?:


MfG Lucki
 
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS???!!!!
DIESE ALTE SCH**** SCHLA*** HAT DAS GEILSTE LIED AUF ERDEN VON DER GEILSTEN BAND DER ERDE GEWAGT!!! ZU COVERN!!!
ICH HASSE SIE SCHON IMMER, ABER JETZT IST SIE MEIN TODFEIND!!!

so ich bin abgeregt... avirl suckt wie wir alle wissen, ich hoffe billie joe, mike und tre hassen die auch.
WIE KANN SIE NUR?!
und wehe da war einer im publikum der das "do you have the time.." auswendig konnte, dann ist das schöne lied für immer von denen misshandelt. vielleicht hören die sogar green day!
omg du arme welt, wer weiss was kübelböck als nächstes covert... ich kann garnet dran denken.
bitte nehmt das alles net zu ernst (ausser dass basket case und green day das geilste ist, nicht unbedingt das beste im spielerischen aber trotzdem!)
 
ibox schrieb:
irgendwie hab ich das gefühl dass keiner hier mag wen wer komerziell erfolg hat. ist das der neid???
aber eigentlich frag ich mich was avril mit independent gunge und punk zu tun hat???
doch ich mag green day und offspring!!! :p
aber auch "richtige" punks
 
die meisten hier scheinen ja ungefähr der selben meinung zu sein... find ich gut...
aber meat muffin hat mir den titel meines letzten songs geraubt ;)
hab ihn "pseudo punk" genannt... der versucht in wenigen zeilen so ziehmlich genau das wiederzugebn, was hier so viele gepostet haben :D sachen gibts... :D

scoop!
 
@ Presskopp

Ich habs mir angeguckt und erstmal :shock:
Danach :?
Als dann alle mitgesungen :!: haben :evil:
Doch dann :idea: die sind ja doof :p
:D
Und ich 8)
 
sooooooooooo... da ich mich ja auch gern über die aufrege... fang ich auch mal an.
1. avril ist schlimmer als man es mit worten sagn könnte
2. busted is noch viel schlimmer ;)

und nu ne kleine geschichte:
1. musik std... wir sollten sagen was wir für musik hörn
da wagst doch ehrlich eine zu sagen:
ich hör punk, also kelly osborn (falsch, ich weiß) und avril lavigne (auch falsch, oder?)..." was soll man dazu sagen?!??!?!
das is ja nich zu fassen!
naja... soweit so schlimm
cu
SoA
 
Okeh, wenn die nur gesagt hätten, dass sie das hören, hätt ichs akzeptiert. Aber das mit Punk hätten die sich sparen können. Ich wär wahrscheinlich weinend ausm Zimmer gelaufen. :)
 
whaa *schüttel* das ist wahrlich die schlimmste aussage die ich jeh gehört hab *schüttel* :evil: wie bitte kann man denn kelly osbourne als punk bezeichnen das schadet dem ruf von echten punk bands
@ SoA: solche leute sollte man einsperren und nix anderes versuch der mal ein paar nachhilfestunden in sachen punk zu geben lass den ganzen tag gute punkband laufen... vielleicht hält die dann in zufunft die fresse... :twisted:
 
ich war nich mehr fähig zu weinen... geschweige denn zu laufen.. :shock:
 
hehe;)
das wirklich schlimme is ja das sie net mal weiss was ihr in wirklichkeit entgeht,wenn sie denkt punk hätte mit avril seinen höhepunkt erreicht dann tut sie mir leid
 
ich hab mir jetz nur die erste seite von diesem thread durchgelesen und weiß ned ob das was ich hier jetz poste son jemand erwähnt hat aber trotzdem
(hoffe ihr könnt englisch)BITTE LEST ES EUCH DURCH; DIESER TEXT IS DIE ZEIT WERT(AUCH WENN IHR DAS ALLES SCHON WISSEN SOLLTET)

Avril Lavigne. Just seeing the name sends a trickle of pure disgust down my spine. Why, you ask? I mean, her songs are so deep! Her clothes are so cute! She doesn't care what anyone thinks of her! She's like, totally punk rawk! Well, my little brainwashed ones, I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree. Let's see...where shall we start?
Avril Lavigne is a pop singer feeding off of the new punk trend. Apparently, she (along with all her fans) missed the bulletin notifying those of us whose minds aren't quite as impressionable that dressing in every article of clothing ever put out by Hot Topic does not make you punk. Clothing should not define a musician's style. Rather (and here's a real challenging idea for you), their MUSIC should. Yet, the brainless youth of America continues to eat it up, as they do with anything and everything they're spoon-fed by the media, top 40 radio, and the sadistic, brainwashing, greedy trend whores better known as MTV executives.
In a recent magazine article, Avril proclaimed, "I don't write 'Oh-baby-baby' songs. I'm a skater punk who writes guitar driven rock." Yet one listen of the record proves otherwise. It is an album of mostly slower, pop-rock tunes that would have felt at home on Mandy Moore's latest record. Avril can't seem to understand that, as much as she tries to give off a different image with what she wears, she is a POP singer. Uh-oh, here comes the retort from angry Avril worshippers.
"She's not pop! She's rock! And she writes songs and plays guitar!"
Calm yourselves, kiddies. This attack has only just begun. Stay with me as I dissect Avril's music, image, fakeness, and hypocrisy.
Annoyance #One Avril the Songwriter
In J-14's August issue, Avril explained her songwriting process. "Once I sit down with the guitar, I write about what I'm feeling that day." However, in the July 1st edition of Time Magazine, Ms. Lavigne admitted, "I sit down with a guitar player usually."
A guitar player. As in someone who is not her playing the guitar. Which is it, Avril? Furthermore, a look at the songwriting credits on her CD will reveal that each song was cowritten with a multitude of professional songwriters. Anyone can spit out a couple rhyming sentences, maybe even a melody here or there, when they're being guided by experts. (Britney Spears did it- is it necessary for me to say much more?) One can't help but wonder just how much of those songs was written by Avril. Yet, in that same J-14 article, she claimed, "I wrote all those songs when I was sixteen." The credits tell otherwise, and somehow I'm not buying the Avril-did-it-all version of the story.
Don't get too angry just yet. There's nothing wrong with receiving some help writing songs. However, Avril is being touted as some guitar-playing, songwriting prodigy when, in reality, she's not the only force behind those tracks. But that's what sells, so I guess that makes it alright to lie, exaggerate, and present yourself as some virtuoso.
Annoyance #Two Avril the Guitar Player
It's pretty impossible to read an article on Avril Lavigne that doesn't mention Michelle Branch. In fact, a recent article in YM stated, "She rocks harder on the guitar than Michelle Branch." Remember that trickle of disgust flowing down my spine? There it is again. You see, Michelle Branch got her big break when she opened up for Hanson- just her, a guitar, and some undeniable raw talent. When performing, be it for TV, a live concert, a radio show, whatever- she always plays her guitar.
That's not the case with Lavigne. In numerous pictures of the singer (and I stress singer, not musician) performing, as well as the television appearances I've seen, Avril merely sings. In her acoustic sessions with AOL, she sang while a member of her band strummed along on acoustic guitar. Any half-decent musician who constantly states that she plays guitar would have proven herself then and there. A CDNow.com article reviewing a recent Avril performance mentioned that she strapped on the guitar for one song, claiming, "I suck." If someone like Britney Spears or Mandy Moore, who call themselves singers/entertainers and not musicians, played guitar for one song during a concert, I'd be impressed. Yet Avril constantly talks about how she plays guitar...why wouldn't she play it live? There's simply no excuse. And playing the few chords that she does know does not constitute a true musician. Furthermore, a look at the album credits show that Avril played guitar for only ONE song. Now that's a real guitar player.
Annoyance #Three Avril the Lyricist
"I never spend less than an hour
Washin' my hair in the shower
It always takes five hours to make it straight
So I'll braid it in a zillion braids
Though it may take a friggin' day
There's nothin' else better to do anyway."
- "My World"
That's uh...deep.
"He was a boy, she was a girl
Can I make it any more obvious?"
Well, you sure as hell couldn't make it any more juvenile.
"He's just a boy, and I'm just a girl
Can I make it anymore obvious?
We are in love, haven't you heard, how we rock each other's world?

I'm with the sk8er boi, I said see you later boy
I'll be backstage after the show
I'll be at the studio singing the song we wrote
About a girl you used to know."
- "Sk8er Boi"
First of all, the fact that it's spelled like that is enough to make me vomit all over myself. I thought no one over the age of thirteen wrote a sentence that looked like, "U R 2 Kewl 2 B 4 GOT N." Second, the lyrics are flat out ridiculous. Boy meets girl, girl is too good for boy, boy becomes big star, girl regrets it, boy meets Avril, boy and Avril live happily ever after. My imaginary nine year old sister could have penned better lyrics.
"Went back home again
This sucks, gotta pack up and leave again
Say goodbye to all my friends
Can't say when I'll be there again
Its time now
I turn around
Turn my back on everything"
- "Mobile"
Well, cry her a fucking river. Avril, darling, you chose that lifestyle. You chose to drop out of high school, move to LA, and pursue your career. Deal with the consequences.
"I'm feeling nervous
Trying to be so perfect
Cause I know you're worth it
You're worth it
Yeah

La da da da La da da da"

- "Things I'll Never Say"
No "Oh baby baby" songs? There's nothing wrong with a love song or two. Yet she disses them every chance she gets...and goes and sings lines that are just as mushy. For example, also found in "Things I'll Never Say"


"If I could say what I want to say
I’d say I want to blow you away
Be with you every night
Am I squeezing you too tight?
If I could say what I want to see
I want to see you go down
On one knee
Marry me today"
At least Britney never proposed marriage.
Oh, and here's a bright idea for Avril to prove how punk she is. Let's have her RAP in a song. Because, ya know, most punk bands always include a rap bit or two in their songs. Here's an excerpt from "Nobody's Fool," also known as Avril's audition for Cash Money Millionaires.
"I'm not the milk and Cheerios in your spoon,
It's not a simple here we go not so soon,
I might have fallen for that when I was 14
And a little more green."

That inconceivably ridiculous first line speaks for itself. The second makes no sense whatsoever, I've no qualms with the third, and the fourth...Avril, the writing is lacking. Perhaps you shouldn't have been so quick to drop out.
"If you're trying to turn me into someone else
It's easy to see I'm not down with that
I'm not nobody's fool."
Could've fooled me. (Yes, I crack myself up.)
Annoyance #Four Avril the Wannabe Punk Rocker
"When it is suggested that even then her tastes were kind of pop-oriented, her head snaps up as though she's been slapped. 'New country,' she says, as though pop music is somehow less cool than new country. Then again, it seems any music is better than pop music in Lavigne's eyes. Later, when it is mentioned that she seems poised for pop stardom, she is quick to correct. 'No, no, no. Rock stardom,' she says forcefully. 'I don't like using the term pop star because that's not my personality. My personality is like a rock star. I'm hardcore.'" (Taken from Nationalpost.com.)
Rock star? Hardcore? Anything but pop? Keep dreaming, Avril. Take one listen to that CD- it's pure pop with a tinge of rock here and there. A song doesn't need slick Neptunes production for it to be radio-friendly pop song that appeals to bubblegum music lovers. And the upbeat track "Naked" is undeniably, well, poppy.
And don't think I'm too evil. I can admit when a song of hers is good. In researching for this article, I downloaded them all. I think "Too Much To Ask" is a pretty good song and "Complicated" consistently gets stuck in my head. However, they're being sung by someone who's always claiming to be one thing, then singing music that's all the opposite. And isn't that what she vents about in "Complicated" anyway? Which leads me to...

Annoyance #Five Avril the Hypocrite
"You're trying to be cool/You look like a fool to me."
The single making Avril famous, "Complicated," is a song about someone who changes their looks and personality to impress other people. Yet, in the video, Avril and crew are trashing the mall and causing all kinds of problems. Avril the rebel even smashes her guitar at the end of the video. (What a shame, it was just like new, seeing as how she strums it maybe three times throughout the entire song.) She tries to come off as this too-cool-for-school bitch with an attitude while she whines about someone who's doing the same thing to her. There's a word for that. I believe it's called hypocrisy.
She's a constant contradiction. She skateboards in the video, poses for publicity shots with the board, tells YM magazine that she's good at it...Yet, in an interview with MTV, she discussed how the director of the "Complicated" video wanted her to skate in it. Ms. Tony Hawk protested, "No, dude, I suck!" Make up your mind, Avril.
Moreover, she recently told Elle Girl, "Today, I rejected some gorgeous publicity shots because they just didn't look like me. I won't wear skanky clothes that show off my booty, my belly, or boobs. I have a great body. I could be Britney. I could be better than Britney."
No one could be Britney. I'm not a huge fan of hers, but her popularity and success are mind-blowing. For Avril to arrogantly declare that she could do even better than one of the most successful teen pop artists ever is ludicrous (and a bit too cocky for my liking). And if she's so against posing in slutty clothes, why didn't she throw in some of that bitchy attitude she seems so proud of and refuse to wear the outfits to begin with? The story simply isn't adding up.

Annoyance #Six Avril the Packaged Product
Unless you're living in Tanzania, you've probably noticed that punk music is edging back into the mainstream. The demand for Britney and NSYNC is down and this means less money for the music execs who buy their Porsches and mansions with money made from teen stars. Time for a new plan. It amazes me that so few people see through this. Avril is dressed in Dickies, ties, studded jewelery, Chuck Taylors- most of which isn't usually worn by the pop fans. Furthermore, she's being hyped up as the songwriter/guitarist that I attacked earlier. She calls herself a skater punk, categorizes her music as rock and punk, poses in pictures with a skateboard...yet her music is anything but what such fashion would suggest. Being punk does not come from wearing the right thing. However the image is helping her to sell more records because it's what's popular now. One look through any teen magazine will reveal models dressed in clothing just like hers.
And let's not forget the fake tattoos she wears on her arms. Cause that's like, ya know, sooo totally hardcore. Let me go draw a big skull and crossbones on my arm so that I can be punk too. Please.
Yet another thing adding to her image that sells so well- upon visit to her official website, "Sk8er Boi," the only remotely faster rock song on the album, begins blaring. Obviously, they want the visitors to form an impression of Avril's music based on that song, when in reality, the rest of the album simply doesn't sound like that.
Avril Lavigne just seems fake, plain and simple. She tries to pull off this tormented, wounded puppy look in the "Complicated" video. She emphasizes her songwriting and guitar playing, yet had numerous songwriters work on her album, while the guitar is rarely strapped around her body when the music is live.
A member of an Anti-Avril community on Live Journal pointed out, "And if she takes all this time trying to label all of her music, she probably isn't what she says she is, cause she has to prove everything through her clothes. Your personality should come from the music you create, and if you are that pathetic to keep on classifying it, might as well forget it." Well done. I couldn't have said it better myself.

This article was transcribed and sent in by Alayna. Thanks!
Note So we already know that Avril is a liar. Remember on TRL during the summer when she was cough lying about how she loved Britney when they had a recording of her bad mouthing her? Well thats just one reason shes a liar but here is more proof. It was found in the October Issue of YM Magazine on page 96. It Goes something like this

Apparently, a litte backlash has already begun (that was even faster than britney's!). After Avril ws on our On The Verge artist in August 2002 issue, we recieved an anoymous letter "The poor girl is trying so hard to not be like the other pop princesses, but in reality shes exacly like them. Her music is pop, not punk as she 'claims' to be. I just ignore her as much a possible and maybe, just maybe, she'll disapear until VH1 makes a new One Hit Wonder Show." "It bugs the hell out of me when people say Im not punk," Says Avril. "I never claimed to be." Hmm. I remember Avril labeled herself a punk in out July 2002 Issue. When I call on her on that, she says she used the word to mean screwup- not a punk rocker. Right.... I have that July Issue in my hand right now, and she didnt mean it in that way. And if it is true that she did, she just put down all of us, saying that Punks are Screw-ups, thus another reason for us to hate her even more, because she judged us. She cant get out of this one, either way she is a lier.
 
tut mir leid... is mir eindeutig zu lang (und dann noch auf englisch!!! :shock: )
cu
SoA
 

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