Robbie Williams

[duke:drum]

@duke:
Lol, ich würde auch gerne in so einem Video mitspielen, du nicht???
Ach kommt Leute, welcher Mann bleibt am Boden, wenn er jeden Tag von hundert Frauen angerufen wird, die ihn vö*** möchten?

nö da würd ich nicht mitspielen. ich würd die frauen zu mir nach hause einladen

 

[klaas9996]

Zitat von:: GuitarKnight::
ne, ernsthaft, er hats schon verdient, er ist ein guter Entertainer und Sänger..

find ich auch. als entertainer ist er in ordnung, aber das neue lied von ihm habe ich auch durch zufall gehört.. das ist wirklich nicht mein geschmack , obwohl auch andere sachen von ihm ganz ok sind...

 

[Birkenschubser]

Das liegt daran, dass der neue Komponist eine Null ist.
Ich finde das neue Album absolut zum Kotzen. :screwy:
Advertising Space geht gerade noch so, der Rest ist belangloses Dahingedudle ohne Höhepunkte. Gerade gut genug als Hintergrundmucke geeignet.
Wenn ich da an solche Kracher wie Love supreme, Angels, No regrets, Let me entertain you, Feel, Me and my monkey, Love somebody denke...
Verdammt, Robbie - warum hast du Guy Chambers verlassen?

 

[Surf Solar]

Warum hat er ihn eigentlich gekündigt?

 

[Birkenschubser]

Er meinte, er hätte kein Bock mehr auf das, was er die ganzen Jahre über gemacht hat.
Naja, vielleicht verbindet er die Art von Musik ja mit seinen Alk- und Koksgeschichten und/oder missglückten Beziehungen? Wer weiß, jetzt will er ja noch mehr abdrehen, und Richtung Elektro gehen! ^^

 

[Surf Solar]

Ist ja ne lobenswerte Einstellung was Neues ausprobieren zu wollen,aber mir gefielen die alten Lieder deutlich besser..

 

[klaas9996]

da kann ich dir nur zustimmen... die alten sachen waren wirklich hörbar, machne davon gefallen mir ganz gut,
aber das neue lied da.. ist komisch..

 

[Surf Solar]

Wo wirbei dem neuen Lied sind, mich würde interessieren WAS er da singt, er singt doch IMO etwas mit "Marlon Brando at the gates..." oder? Kann auch sein das ich mich verhört hab^^

 

[madeye]

Wo wirbei dem neuen Lied sind, mich würde interessieren WAS er da singt, er singt doch IMO etwas mit "Marlon Brando at the gates..." oder? Kann auch sein das ich mich verhört hab^^

er singt "..when marlon brando passed away...".

 

[Surf Solar]

okay, aber was er damit (mit dem ganzen text ) ausdrücken will weisst du nich oder? schade, find den text recht interessant..

 

[madeye]

okay, aber was er damit (mit dem ganzen text ) ausdrücken will weisst du nich oder? schade, find den text recht interessant..

ich denke der text soll eine art "seelenleere" ausdrücken.

advertising space im sinne von "auszufüllender raum", wenn man z.b. nichts mit sich anzufangen weiß oder so.

 

[Birkenschubser]

Naja, die Texte vom Robbie fand ich schon immer sehr interessant, manchmal einfach nur schön und berührend.
Naja, ein paar sind vielleicht recht simpel, aber die meisten haben doch eine gewisse unverkennbare Symbolik. ^^

 

[Surf Solar]

Lässt er die Texte auch schreiben oder macht er die selbst?

 

[duke:drum]

Lässt er die Texte auch schreiben oder macht er die selbst?

ich tippe darauf das er ersteres macht und zweiteres sagt.

 

[Birkenschubser]

Warum muss man eigentlich immer versuchen, wirklich erfolreichen Künstler der Pop-Neuzeit jegliche Talente außer dem Singen und Entertainen abzusprechen? :screwy:

Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass Robbie Williams es nicht nötig, dahingehend irgendwelche Lügen zu verbreiten.
Wozu auch? Der Mann hockt sich aus Spaß in die Fußgängerzone und spielt Bettler, um dem ersten barmherzigen Samariter 600 Pfund in die Hand zu drücken.

 

[Surf Solar]

Warum muss man eigentlich immer versuchen, wirklich erfolreichen Künstler der Pop-Neuzeit jegliche Talente außer dem Singen und Entertainen abzusprechen? :screwy:

Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass Robbie Williams es nicht nötig, dahingehend irgendwelche Lügen zu verbreiten.
Wozu auch? Der Mann hockt sich aus Spaß in die Fußgängerzone und spielt Bettler, um dem ersten barmherzigen Samariter 600 Pfund in die Hand zu drücken.

hab ja nur gefragt ob er die texte selber schreibt, hab ihn nicht beleidigt.... solange er ordentlich singen und entertainen kann stört mich es auch nicht ob der text/das lied nun aus seiner feder stammt oder nicht ...

 

[Birkenschubser]

Nee, wollte keinen angreifen - war mehr auf Duke´s Antwort bezogen.
Einfach mal einen Einzeiler ablassen, ohne Begründung. ^^

Ist ja auch wayne. ;-)

 

[Ratti]

Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass Robbi seine Texte selbst schreibt

Zu Advertising Space

There's no earthly way of knowing,
What's in your heart when its' stopped going.
The whole world shook,
The storm was blowing through you.

Waiting for god,
To stop this.
I'm too young and,
And darkness.
Everyone around you was corrupted,
Say something.

There's no dignity in death,
To sell the world your last breath.
Your still fighting over everything you left,
OOOOOOOOOOHH.

I saw you standing at the gate,
When Marlon Brando passed away.
You had that look upon your face,
Advertising Space.
And no one learned from your mistakes,
The little profits go to waste.
All that's left in any case,
Is advertising space.
OOOOOOOHH.

Through your eyes the world was burning,
Please be gentle i'm still learning.
He seemed to say,
As you kept turning up.

They poisoned you with compromise,
At what point did you realise.
Everybody loves your life,
But you.

A special agent for the man,
Watergates and Vietnam.
No one really gave a damn,
D'ya think the sea i'm aiding???

I saw you standing at the gate,
When Marlon Brando passed away.
You had that look upon your face,
Advertising Space.
And no one learned from your mistakes,
The little profits go to waste.
All that's left in any case,
Is advertising space.
OOOOOOOHH.OOOOOOOOOH.

And no one learned from your mistakes,
The little profits go to waste.
All that's left in any case,
Is advertising space.
I've seen your doctor man she's cute,
I was scared but i wanted to.
Boy she looks a lot like you.

Songmeanings:
Everybody is saying that it's about Elvis and in the video he play Elvis, but when I heard this song for the first time I immediately thought it is about Kurt Cobain! There are so many hints about him, I really thought it's obvious... like this line "I've seen your daughter man she's cute...Boy she looks a lot like you" or "a storm was blowing through you" because he shot himself (or was shot). And recently he met Courtney Love... I thought this could also have been a reason for him to write this song. and with the line "we're still fighting over everything you left" he could mean the fight between Courtney Love and Krist Novoselic/Dave Grohl about the unreleased songs and that stuff
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it is about elvis.lol it is not about kurt. those hints you mention... well elvis death is very similiar in fact with kurt's one. cuz there is a big mistery around elvis death..many contradicions and lies...and for me elvis is alive. now i´m sure the song is about elvis. its not about kurt. i've seen your daughter man she's cute...its refering to elvis daughter who sings too ..like her father. it got nothing to do with a kurt cobain daughter(!?!?) as someone said..by tje way...i think kurt has no daugters..
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Personally i feel that, yes the song is about Elvis ,there're many referneces to him in the song (not to mention the video)

.1. 'What's in your heart when its' stopped going.' Elvis died of a heart attack, althought there have been many contradicting theories.

.2. 'Their still fighting over, everything you left' Maybe about all elvis's possesions being sold - everybody wanted a piece of him.

.3.'Advertising Space' Message of emptiness- space to advertise and/or in reference to the many media endorsements the 'elvis image' has been used in. For example countless songs being remixed , merchandise.

.4. 'Everybody loves your life,But you.' It was always thought that Elvis had depression in his later years, he found coping with fame difficult and turned to drug use.

.5.I've seen your daughterr man she's cute,I was scared but i wanted to.Boy she looks a lot like you. '
Reference to lisa marie presley, who does bear a striking resemblance to Elvis.

.6.'There's no dignity in death,' Elvis was said to have died on a toilet which has been made into a joke e.g. eminems video

7.' Marlon brando' Elvis and Brando were around in the same era it was often a case of whose better looking, i presume they're friends or have some link to each other.
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"I saw you standing at the gates,
When Marlon Brando passed away"

I think the explanation for this can be found in the next line, "No-one learned from your mistakes". He's saying that when Brando died - old, fat, a shadow of his former self destroyed, by indulgence and addiction - he was reminded of Elvis. They had both led glamorous lives and met less than glamorous ends. Brando had not learned the lessons of Elvis' life.

I also love the line about realising everybody loved your life but you.

 

[Ratti]

Rudebox 74

01. Rudebox - produced by Soul Mekanik
02. Viva Life On Mars - produced by Soul Mekanik
03. Lovelight - Lewis Taylor cover - produced by Mark Ronson
04. King of the Bongo - Manu Chao cover - produced by Mark Ronson
05. She's Madonna - produced by Pet Shop Boys
06. Keep On - produced by Mark Ronson
07. Good Doctor - produced by Mark Ronson
08. The Actor - produced by Brandon Christy
09. Never Touch That Switch - produced by Soul Mekanik
10. Louise - produced by William Orbit
11. We're the Pet Shop Boys - produced by Pet Shop Boys
12. Burslem Normals - produced by Soul Mekanik
13. Kiss Me - produced by Dave Lee (Joey Negro)
14. The 80s - produced by Jerry Meehan
15. The 90s - produced by Jerry Meehan
16. Summertime - produced by William Orbit

17. Dickhead - produced by Jerry Meehan - bonus track


RUDEBOX
A Track By Track Guide

"It wasn't till I was in the studio the other day listening to a few of the tracks back, I was with the Soul Mekanik boys and the thought hit me…Do songs like the ones you like, I'm eight albums in, why didn't I think of this before. Doh! I've just been scared to make this record before I think.

My solo career started when the Britpop explosion did, and I thought, try and make songs that sound like that, but this is now…I'm 32 years old, eight albums in, and this is the record I've always wanted to make. It's the start for me. It's reignited how I think about what I can do with music myself. I've always been scared to try out different things and this album I think I've lost the fear of where I should be in my head as a populist, as a populist artist, and it means I can just go and do wonky pop now, which is all I really wanted to do anyway.

It has become something on which I've found myself. This is the right direction for me personally, this is what it is. I saw the whole Robbie thing coming to a close, I couldn't make another album like the ones I'd made, and this has just opened up a thousand other doors. What I am excited about now is making more music. I love all the stuff on the album, I love Rudebox, it's a favourite song of mine. I don't know what's gonna happen now, I'm excited about getting it out there, but I'm more excited about making more.";

RW, August 2006


Rudebox
Danny & Kelvin (aka Soul Mekanik) sent me the very basic drum track and it just became a floor shaker with lyrics straight outta Stoke on Trent. My heads been in some strange places and taken some strange exit turns since I was 16. When we get in the studio we gel and we know where we are going, we get excited when it's right. I think I'm/we're onto something. I just think the synchronicity of where we come from and how we are as people adds its own certain chemistry in the studio. It's a bit strange to be playing this live at the moment cos no one knows it and the venues are massive and playing something so leftfield can be quite daunting, it is something I haven't done on any other tour (played something no one knows) usually I am a big fan of give them what they want. This time I decided it is a case of give them what they don't know they want yet.

Viva Life On Mars
For me it is doing away with all I have been taught and instead of investing my faith in a Catholic religion, I decided that the fantasies on the internet are more interesting than the fantasies at the pulpit. I see it as 'Oh Brother Where Art Thou', meets Primal Scream when they were good; there has been 3 World Cups since then. Is this my first ever hoe down? A few hoes have bought me down before…

Lovelight
I wouldn't have known about Lovelight if it hadn't have been for Tom Middleton's 'The Trip' album - he put it on there, and I fell in love with it instantly…I can't believe how big that song is and no one knows it. It is amazing to work with a white boy with a ghetto pass like Mark Ronson. He is on the cutting edge of all that is good out there and still manages to love pop. I feel honoured to work with somebody that puts cynicism aside in favour of the truth. I was concerned about singing that vocal, because its full on falsetto all the way through it and I'd only ever done that on the chorus of a track called 'Tripping' that I did a couple of years ago. I knew that Lewis Taylor had done such a great vocal that it would be really hard to replicate but I think I did good singing… [Oh yes you did ! (Sorry, I'm talking too loud...)]



King Of The Bongo
I didn't pick this song, It picked me…'King Of The Bongo' was played to me by a couple of friends of mine six years ago, and I always thought "I've got to cover this.."; and now was the right time. 'King Of The Bongo' to me is like an unwritten Disney Film. How did Lily Allen end up on here? I knew about her as I had met her at the studio. The Lily Allen Phenomenon is not solely contained to the UK she seems to be doing well everywhere...good on her too.

She's Madonna
My life seems to be like a never ending edition of Jim'll fix it. I am truly blessed. The odds of Robbie Williams making a ninth album ten years ago would have been more than long against. To be writing this album and having my heroes work with me feels phenomenal. I played Tour De France by Kraftwerk and said "I like this, Can we do something like this, but not much like this,"; but then everything else came together pretty quickly. In case anyone asks…There is nothing tongue in cheek about this song at all, I have always fancied Madonna. I'd have hoped for it to be this good, but you can never tell before venturing into the studio. It is just a bonus that it worked out so well

Keep On
There were 3 things I taped off the TV that I used to watch on repeat when I was a kid- Prince's Alphabet St Tour, Public Enemy @ Brixton and The Happy Mondays at G Mex. I suppose I was interested in the Happy Mondays because they looked like psychedelic next door neighbours with faces and attitude that I understood. Little did we all know that in 2006 we would still be chasing 1989? I can't remember lyrics at the best of times, there are so many in this so I doubt I will ever do it live. It is about choosing a different kind of life and believing in the boogie and all it brings.

Good Doctor
Originally we had a sample from the 'Return of Django' by the Upsetters, but we got rid of that, but we could always do that later. Sorry The Upsetters…It came from trying to bend the rules of a sober life, I am 32 and am still trying to look for a short cut, there isn't one. Is it hard to rhyme all those medical terms? No but it is hard to find a perfect balance

The Actor
Partly written on Oscars Night, 'The Actor' is about living in LA, and how it has given me little respect for the acting profession. I don't see this as a dance song at all; I see it as a story over Germanic electro pop.

Never Touch That Switch
The first records I bought were electro records and I never thought in a million years it would be something Robbie Williams could do. It only struck me in the studio as we were recording. Although I didn't write this one it just reminded me of pre-narcotics and pro-stealing your mums' lino. What does it mean? I don't know, it is in the eye of the beholder. To me 'Never Touch That Switch' is all about never opening your system to the mood altering experience...you don't know what it can do to you.

Louise
When I was writing and recording Intensive Care with Stephen Duffy, 'Louise' by the Human League kept on being the centre point on what I wanted to achieve with the record. With Louise I remember when it first came out, and then I didn't listen to it for ages until the middle of the 90's. When I heard it again, it kind of broke my heart thinking of a period of time I had back when…I wanted to make an album that would hopefully break a few hearts in 10/15 years time. Louise was the template for the Intensive Care album, so it seemed the natural next step to play homage to it and I think we've done a good version of it. I'd always wanted to work with William Orbit, I love my ambient melancholy.

We're The Pet Shop Boys
I just love the fact that the Pet Shop Boys covered it, it is not one of their songs and I love the irony of me covering a cover. Above all that the romance for me in this song is paramount. Did I feel like a Pet Shop Boy when I was recording it? Yes absolutely (said with a big smile). Chris Heath (The person who co-wrote 'Feel' my autobiography with me) played it to me and I fell in love with it. I must say when I've listened to it back and when I get a chance to sing it, the "What have I, What have I, What have I done to deserve this"; bit sends shivers down my spine, everytime it comes up. It's a sense of history, yours and mine and those particular lyrics really affect me. It's an honour to do it. I love the Pet Shop Boys and I was pleased to learn that amongst pop genii I can hold my own.

Burslem Normals
It is about an ideal of youth; It is about how in the 80's and the early 90's there were so many avenues to explore and so many gangs to be a part of. Youth Culture these days depressingly seems just about the Chav. Back then we had so much choice and the Burslem Normals was a piece of graffiti from the town I was born in, I don't know what they were into, but they sound cool as f***.I have always liked what I like and it has always been varied and fortunately I find myself find a position where I do not have to pigeon hole myself. The sentiment in this song is the same as the sentiment in the song 'Heaven From Here' but wonkier.

Kiss Me
Stephen Duffy plays like he hates it; I wanted to do it as I wanted him to see how good the track is. Also when this track came out in 1981, something nice must have been happening to me at the time, because it makes me feel full of hope. Youth's yearning for life and love and all of that. Does he like it? I don't know, I daren't ask him. Ok, so I just asked him, and yes he does.

80s
I was obsessed by a track by the Mitchell Brothers called 'Routine Check' and also a big fan of Mike Skinner of The Streets and what he does over records, be it rapping or poetry. Its very similar to Ian Dury's stuff to me, Im also a big fan of his, he was the first white British rapper. I've always always wanted to be a rapper, I've always been jealous of rappers because of how comfy they are and how cool they look, they've always got a tracksuit on and trainers and I have to dress up cos Im a popstar... I want to be a rapper but the world won't let me. The only reason I have craved my own niche is because it is not that easy. I love words and will continue to use them. It is bitter sweet about a decade where I formed an opinion, I was wrong.

90s
The 90s on the other hand was, originally going to have a sample from one of my top 5 favourite songs…Wichita Lineman in it. I didn't like it at first, but I came around to it and did some poetry on it, some comfy rapping, with very English storytelling like a modern Roald Dahl but fatter! The 90's then on became the 90's after we took the sample out. I look back at it now with a fondness in my heart. I think they are just two nice bookends; 'The 80s' - up until I'd left school, lost my virginity, done all kinds. Then there was the whole Take That story to tell which was 'The 90's'. It's weird now, I've spunked all the best material so I'll have to do something drastic so that we have some source material for the next one.

Summertime
When it was originally written it was one of the first, if not the first songs I wrote when I came out of Take That and the feel of the song is a complete juxtapose of how I was at the time. When I wrote 'Summertime', which is a very euphoric, up song I don't think I could have been anymore depressed, deluded, lost. I remember I went down to London in a pair of Vivian Westwood tartan bondage trousers, a pair of black Patrick Cox and a lovely white Vivian Westwood shirt…I was skinny as, a right proper raver and I moved in with a lady on new years night, and by February I was just fat! fat and horrible and lost, all over the place. That was when I met up with Ant Genn and we wrote the song together, Ant was my indie enfant terrible; I adored him cos he was cool as f*** and Northern and funny, I wanted to be him, but drugs took their tole on both of us. At least I have a lasting memory of an amazing yet catastrophic summer, plus I love the fact that little bunnies freeze in the snow.

Dickhead (Bonus Track)
Dickhead was definitely leant from the Mitchell Brothers, so they are to blame for this whole thing. Conversely amongst my friends, Dickhead is the biggest compliment that can be paid, if I call you a Dickhead I like you, but it means the reverse on this record. Life sometimes seems to be a Krypton factor course of idiots, unfortunately idiots speak the loudest. This song is for everyone that thinks I am a Dickhead, I am just reciprocating, the feeling is mutual.

 

[Merlchen]

ich finds super, weiter so robbie