Epiphone Seriennummern Identifikation

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  1. Paruwi

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    Da das Epiphone-Wiki derzeit nicht, und voraussichtlich auch künftig, nicht online ist
    könnten die folgenden Informationen wichtig sein

    YYMMFFRRRRR
    In 2008 models begin to appear without a factory i.d. letter prefix.
    • YY = Year of manufacture
    • MM = Month of manufature
    • FF = Factory I.D.
    • RRRRR = Ranking number
    Example: 08121520333 = 2008 / December / factory 15 / unit 20333

    NOTE: Pre 1994 productions also frequently omitted factory letter codes and appeared as all numbers. e.g. 3042779
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    FYYMMRRRR



      • F/FF = Factory code (No factory designator for some 1993 and earlier models)
      • Y/YY = Year of manufacture (Single digit for some 1997 and earlier models)
      • MM = Month of manufacture
      • RRRR = Ranking number (may be more or less digits)
    Example: 3021234 = Samick Korea / 1993 / February / unit 1234
    Example: S3021234 = Samick Korea / 1993 / February / unit 1234
    Example: S93021234 = Samick Korea / 1993 / February / unit 1234
    Example: SI01021234 = Samick Indonesia / 2001 / February / unit 1234
    Example: SI010212345 = Samick Indonesia / 2001 / February / unit 12345
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    FYYMRRRR




      • F = Factory code
      • YY = Year of manufacture
      • M = Letter code to corresponding month (A = January, B = February, etc.)
      • RRRR = Ranking number
    Example: R01B0123 = Peerless Korea / 2001 / February / unit 0123.
    mostly used on Peerless made Epiphones
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    FYYSSSS
    Epiphone Elite/Elitist models




      • F = Factory code (F = Fuji-gen, T = Terada)
      • Y = Single digit year of manufacture (2002-2009)
      • YY = Double digit year of manufacture (2010-Current)
      • SSSS = Sequential ranking number
    Example: F21234 = Fuji-gen Japan / 2002 / unit 1234
    Example: T101234 = Terada Japan / 2010 / unit 1234
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    FACTORY LETTER CODES
    For Epiphone serial numbers that begin with a letter(s), this list identifies the factory & country where produced:




      • B - Bohêmia Musico-Delicia (Czech Republic)
      • BW - ____?____ (China)
      • CI - Cort (Indonesia)
      • DW - DaeWon (China)
      • EA - QingDao (China) = Epiphone Acoustic
      • ED - Dongbei (China) = Chinese Dongbei means North-east.
      • EE - QingDao (China) = Epiphone Electric
      • F/FN - Fine Guitars (Korea) = non-Japanese models
      • FC - ____?____ (China 2000's) Possibly "Global Fine Supply Ltd."
      • FC - Fuji-Gen (Japan 1990's)
      • H - _______ (China?) Found on a 1995 El Nino
      • G/GG - Identified as early modern Masterbilt acoustics (Epiphone says they have no record of G serials)
      • GR - Grand Reward (Farida, Guang Dong) China, Seen on some early Masterbilt acoustics
      • GP - ____?____ (Korea) found on a BB King Lucille from 2001 (verified by Epiphone Customer Service)
      • I - Saein (Korea)
      • J - Terada Gakki Seisakusyo (Japan)
      • J - Unknown. Possibly Jakarta, Indonesia - Found on a 1997 S-310
      • JK - ??? Korea or Indonesia - Found on a 1999 G-310 Junior
      • K - Korea Ins. (Korea)
      • L - Leader Musical Instrument Co Ltd (Korea)
      • MC - Muse (China)
      • MR - Mirr factory, China
      • N - See: FN
      • O - Choice (Korea)
      • P/R - Peerless (Korea)
      • QG - Qingdao Gibson (China) - Interim designation used prior to "EA" & "EE"
      • S - Samick (Korea)
      • SI - Samick (Bogor, Indonesia)
      • SJ - SaeJun (China)
      • SK - ???
      • SM - Samil (Korea)
      • SN - ____?____ (Indonesia)
      • T - Terada Gakki Seisakusyo (Japan)
      • U - Unsung (Korea)
      • UC - Unsung China (China)
      • X - ____ (China) - Early to mid 1990's serial number label - Verified by Epiphone Customer Service. Seen on "Epi" brand guitars.
      • Y - Korea (seen on a PR775CE)
      • Z - Zaozhuang Saehan (China)
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    FACTORY NUMBER CODES
    For some models starting in 2008, if serial begins with numbers.

    NOTE: The factories identified by these codes are based on patterns which forum members have observed. The numbers appear as the 5th and sixth digits in the serial number.




      • 11 = MIC sticker on a '08 Masterbuilt 500
      • 12 = DeaWon or Unsung (China -- uncertainty remains as to which factory)
      • 13 = China - factory unknown
      • 15 = Qingdao (China) -- electric
      • 16 = Qingdao (China) -- acoustic
      • 17 = China - factory unknown MIC sticker on a J160E
      • 18 = China - factory unknown found on one 2009 model bass
      • 20 = DaeWon or Unsung (China -- uncertainty remains as to which factory)
      • 21 = Unsung, Korea
      • 22 = Korea (factory still unknown)
      • 23 = Samick factory Indonesia
      • I = Indonesia (this letter has appeared as the 5th digit on two authentic new models made in Indonesia)

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    F-Serial used on LP Std'59/'60 models and Tribute/Plus models
    This newest serial number system used by Epiphone is not yet completely deciphered.

    'F' doesn't refer to 'Fine, Korea' - nor to 'Fuji-gen, Japan' - New "F" models are made in China.

    This serial number system doesn't exactly tell the year - and doesn't tell the month at all.
    • Beginning with F300000 in late 2009 used on LP Std'59/Std'60/Tribute models
    • Continued around F310650~F311050 in spring 2012 on Tribute-Plus models
    • Continued around F305000 in 2011
    • Continued around F310000 in 2012
    • Continued around F317000 in 2013
    • Continued around F324000 in 2014
    • Continued around F330000 in 2015
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    Epiphone Japan Serial Numbers

    1998-Current
    The Yamano Gakki Epiphone Japan serial numbers from 1998 onwards are in a YMMPPP format.

    Y = Year of manufacture
    MM = Month of manufacture
    PPP = Production number

    The serial number letters used by the Terada and Fuji-Gen guitar factories are:
    • J = Terada
    • T = Terada,
    • F = Fuji-Gen
    • No Letter = Fuji-Gen
    Example: J902123 = Terada / 1999 / February / unit 123
    Example: T902123 = Terada / 1999 / February / unit 123
    Example: F902123 = Fuji-Gen / 1999 / February / unit 123
    Example: 902123 = Fuji-Gen / 1999 / February / unit 123


    1987-1997
    For Yamano Gakki Epiphone Japan semi acoustic models from 1987 to approximately 1997, the serial numbers are in a YCPPP format.
    They were made by Terada and usually have an Orange Epiphone label.

    Y = Year of manufacture
    C = Model code
    PPP = Production number


    Model Codes (C)
    • 1 = NVJ
    • 2 = EMPEROR
    • 3 = RIVIERA
    • 4 = SHERATON
    • 5 = CASINO
    • 6 = Limited Edition
    • 7 = EB-2
    • 8 = ES-930J
    • 9 = EMPEROR-J
    Example: 34123 = 1993 / SHERATON / unit 123
    Example: 38123 = 1993 / ES-930J / unit 123

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    1971-1987


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    Blue Label

    Blue Label "Union Made"
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    Lincolnwood Label

    Brown Label

    The Aria Epiphone Japan models that were made by Matsumoku from the early 1970s and ending before 1987 do not have a reliable serial numbering system but can be approximately dated using their Epiphone label colours.

    • 1971-1975 - Blue label - Early models say "Union Made"
    • 1976-1979 - Tan or white "Lincolnwood" label with Norlin logo
    • 1980-1987 - Brown Label with splotched pattern

    Blue Labels:

    The early Japanese blue labels were left over from production at the Kalamazoo factory and were used on Japanese-made instruments until supplies ran out (approximately 1970-1971). These labels say "Union Made" in the lower left corner and are sometimes hand-stamped with "Made in Japan" at the bottom. Some of the interim blue lables had neither the "Union Made" nor "Made in Japan" markings on them. When supplies ran out, these labels were replaced with a new batch that were printed "Made in Japan" in the lower right corner. Pre-1970 "Union Made" labels are distinguishable from labels used on Japanese intruments by the printed model name of the intrument only.


    Lincolnwood Labels:

    The Lincolnwood label was also used for the Tawainese "Epi" series acoustic guitars from 1979-1980. These labels say "Made in Tawain" in the bottom right corner.

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    Refurbished Models
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    MIRC Refurb Label
    Serial numbers starting with '311xxxx' on a golden sticker are 'refurbished' guitars sold by MIRC (Musical Instrument Reclamation Center)
    • There is no way to tell the year or the month it was made in the MIRC serial
    • Original serial numbers are usually defaced
    • Original warranty void
    • Sometimes the word "2nd" is stamped on back of headstock
    • MIRC specs can often be different from stock specs
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  2. Real-JJCale

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    hier noch die Datierungscodes für Epiphone, die in den '90ern im Samick-Werk Korea gebaut wurden:


    Der Datierungscode wurde Anfang der '90er mehrfach von Samick geändert.

    1992 wurden die SNs auf die rückseitige Kopfplatte lackiert. Der bis Ende 1993 verwendete Code lautete

    SYYPPPPP = S -> Samick, YY -> Herstellungsjahr, PPPPP -> Produktions-Nr. (5-stellig)


    Ab 1994 wurde der Produktionsmonat (MM) wieder in die SN integriert, die Jahreszahl (Y) war jetzt nur noch 1-stellig, wobei die Produktionsnummern (PPPP) 4-stellig wurden.

    Beispiel: SYMMPPPP -> Example: S4030482 = 482nd guitar made March 1994


    Ab 1997 wurde die Jahreszahl wieder 2-stellig (YY), was dazu führte, dass die SNs nun 8-stellig wurden:

    SYYMMPPPP (die Produktionsnummern blieben 4-stellig)


    LG
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    *edit*

    Das betrifft Samick Gitarren - nicht Epiphone Gitarren die in der Zeit bei Samick hergestellt wurden

    Und du solltest die Quelle deiner Info nennen - das Samick-Wikia,
    welches nach dem Vorbild des Epi-Wikis für Samick-Gitarren von einem Freund erstellt wurde
     
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    Ich bin leider nicht kompetent genug, um zu entscheiden, inwieweit die zusätzlichen Informationen in #2 bezogen auf "Epiphone" zur Datierung tatsächlich herangezogen werden können. Aber ebenso, wie dieser Beitrag zunächst sicherlich rein informativ gedacht war, muß dann auch der ("entschärfte[Edit]") Hinweis/Einwand in #3 im Sinne einer möglichen Fehlinformation durchaus akzeptiert werden.
    Was jedoch keinesfalls akzeptabel ist, waren die sich daraus entwickelten gegenseitigen, heftigen Anfeindungen :bad:. Daher habe ich diese entfernt/editiert, damit der geneigte Leser zwar weiterhin die Informationen, aber auch einen Verweis auf kritischen Umgang mit eben diesen hat :engel:.

    Bei Bedarf wäre eine sachliche Aussprache, die eine einvernehmliche Klärung herbeiführt, wünschenswert.

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    das habe ich ja, man muß nur auf den blauen link in meinem post #2 klicken...


    wenn du dem blauen link folgst und liest, findest du oberhalb des Absatzes "SPG" hierzu alle Infos:



    Zitat:

    Around 1992 (although some examples have been found with stickers as late as 1993), all set neck models switched to a silk-screened serial number on the back of the headstock with an "S" prefix:

    SYYPPPPP
    Example: S9207374 = 7,374th (set neck?) guitar made in 1992


    While contract builds always included the prefix, it wasn't always used on Samick brand guitars.

    By the end of 1993, the month (M) returned to the format, and by 1994, the year was shortened to one digit:

    SYMMPPPP
    Example: S4030482 = 482nd guitar made March 1994


    Finally, by at least May 1997, the year returned to two digits:
    SYYMMPPPP

    Example: S97040076 = 76th guitar made April 1997




    Der in Rot markierte Text sagt inhaltlich, daß alle in Fremdauftrag (also auch die Epis in dieser Zeit) den Prefix S hatten (wie z.B. meine Epiphone Sheraton und alle Epis aus dieser Zeit von Samick).

    Weiter sagt der Text, dass die hauseigenen Gitarren under dem Label "Samick" den Prefix "S" nicht immer besaßen.

    In den '90ern hatte Samick den Großteil der Epiphone-Fremdaufträge, ergo stimmt das Datierungsformat auch und gerade für die Epiphones aus dem Samick-Werk/Korea.


    RJJC
     
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