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Hallo,
I'm new here and I don't know if posting in English is allowed. I couldn't find it in the forum rules. First of all, I'm posting here because I can't find any good Dutch forum about keyboards. I hope you're willing to help me out, even though I can't post in German. If you respond in German that's oke, because I can read German quite well.
(1) Welches Budget steht dir zur Verfügung?
___ bis 1400
[ ] Gebrauchtkauf möglich
(2) Ist bereits Equipment vorhanden, das weiterbenutzt werden soll?
[ ] ja: __________________________
[X] nein.
(3) Wie schätzt du dich spieltechnisch ein?
[X] Anfänger
[ ] Fortgeschrittener
[ ] ambitionierter Fortgeschrittener
[ ] Profi (Berufsmusiker)
(4) Wo setzt du das Instrument ein? (nur zuhause, auf der Bühne, im Studio...) Wie oft wird es bewegt? Wie viel Gewicht willst du maximal schleppen?
The piano will be in my room. I have a small room though.
(5) Zu welchem Zweck benötigst du das Instrument (Klavierersatz, als Workstation für die Band/für Musikproduktion, als Alleinunterhalter-Board...)
For practice and occasional recording.
(6) Welche Musik-Stile spielst du und in welchen Besetzungen?
I don't have a specific style preference yet.
(7) Welche Sounds benötigst du? Welche davon besonders wichtig? Soll dein Instrument "Spezialist" auf einem bestimmten Soundgebiet sein?
I do want a good grand piano sound and some additional sounds to play and experiment with.
(8) Welche Erwartungen stellst du an die Soundqualität?
[ ] Naja, man soll schon das Klavier vom Banjo unterscheiden können...
[ ] Gute Sounds
[ ] Nur das Allerbeste!
[X] Besonders wichtige Aspekte: Piano sounds must be really good, additional sounds should be oke.
(9) Welche Instrumenttypen suchst du / kommen für dich infrage?
[ ] Hardware-Klangerzeuger mit Tastatur
[ ] Hardware-Klangerzeuger ohne Tastatur (Rack)
[ ] MIDI-Masterkeyboard
[ ] Software-Klangerzeuger
(10) Welche Features sind die besonders wichtig?
[X] Standard-Sounds (Piano, E-Piano, Orgeln, Streicher, Bläser)
[ ] Synthese / Soundbearbeitung
[ ] Sampling
[ ] Sequencing
[ ] Begleitautomatik
[ ] Masterkeyboardeigenschaften
[ ] Orgeldrawbars
[ ] Lesliesimulation
[ ] Eingebaute Lautsprecher
[ ] Eingebaute Effekte (falls gewünscht, konkret: __________)
[ ] sonstiges: ________________________________________
(11) Welche Tastaturgrößen kommen für die infrage?
[ ] 25
[ ] 37
[ ] 49
[ ] 61 (Standardgröße Keyboards/Orgeln)
[ ] 73/76
[X] 88 (Standardgröße Klavier)
(12) Welche Tastaturgewichtungen- und Typen kommen für dich infrage?
[ ] ungewichtet
[ ] (leicht-)gewichtet
[ ] Waterfall
[ ] Hammermechanik (eher schwer oder leicht gewichtet? ___________)
(13) Hast du bestimmte Ansprüche an die Optik? (klavierähnliches Aussehen, wohnzimmertauglich, cooles Design...)
__________________________________________________
(14) Sonst noch was? Extrawünsche?
__________________________________________________
I'll briefly explain my situation. The last year I've been practicing on a Yamaha-PSR290. I bought this keyboard because I thought it was good enough until I should go buy a decent piano. The last months I came to realize that the PSR290 just isn't a good piano replacement. Although I don't have any complaints about the sound, the keys are ultralight and non weighted ( thus making practice harder sometimes, it improves the chance of you pressing the wrong buttons) and the internal speakers are bad. This just isn't a good keyboard for a beginner pianist: you can't possibly put any emotion in the music with these keys. So I decided to buy a proper piano. Now some of you might think: Das ist dumm, such noob with a 1400 euro piano. Well, I tend to agree. But I don't have a high budget. I know that if I buy such a thing I will have to deal with it for the next 15 years. That's why I'm buying a decent piano which seems expensive at first, but it's better than buying a cheap ass piano and still have to buy a more expensive one.
Oke, that wasn't very brief. The problem is this: I'm a total newb. From what I've seen and heard the Roland FP-7 and the Kurzweil sp2x are both good instruments. What I like about the Roland is this:
1. I love the piano sound.
2. Built in speakers are decent.
3. Very praktisch, doesn't take much space.
What I don't like about the Roland:
1. Built in speakers are decent, but could be better.
I've never heard the Kurzweil sp2x in action ( only on internet) so I can't judge the sound, but I like this about it:
1. It's cheaper.
2. I can tell from reviews that the kurzweil piano sound is also gut.
3. Design, it looks great.
Now, when it comes to finances they are equally expensive. For 1400 euro's I get this
1. Roland FP-7 ( inkl. sustain pedahl)
2. Design stander
3. Kopfhorer
For 1400 euro's I get
1. Kurzweil sp2x
2. Roland dp 8 sustain pedahl
3. K&M 18880 stander
4. 2X the snake SPP2030 trs cables
5. Ein paar Samson Resolve 65A abhormonitore
6. Ein paar QUIK LOK BS300 monitorstativen
Can you tell me what's the best solution for me?
Please help this newb out, if you do, I'll be supporting the deutsche Mannschaft in 2008.
Vielen dank,
Gino
Aus holland
I'm new here and I don't know if posting in English is allowed. I couldn't find it in the forum rules. First of all, I'm posting here because I can't find any good Dutch forum about keyboards. I hope you're willing to help me out, even though I can't post in German. If you respond in German that's oke, because I can read German quite well.
(1) Welches Budget steht dir zur Verfügung?
___ bis 1400
[ ] Gebrauchtkauf möglich
(2) Ist bereits Equipment vorhanden, das weiterbenutzt werden soll?
[ ] ja: __________________________
[X] nein.
(3) Wie schätzt du dich spieltechnisch ein?
[X] Anfänger
[ ] Fortgeschrittener
[ ] ambitionierter Fortgeschrittener
[ ] Profi (Berufsmusiker)
(4) Wo setzt du das Instrument ein? (nur zuhause, auf der Bühne, im Studio...) Wie oft wird es bewegt? Wie viel Gewicht willst du maximal schleppen?
The piano will be in my room. I have a small room though.
(5) Zu welchem Zweck benötigst du das Instrument (Klavierersatz, als Workstation für die Band/für Musikproduktion, als Alleinunterhalter-Board...)
For practice and occasional recording.
(6) Welche Musik-Stile spielst du und in welchen Besetzungen?
I don't have a specific style preference yet.
(7) Welche Sounds benötigst du? Welche davon besonders wichtig? Soll dein Instrument "Spezialist" auf einem bestimmten Soundgebiet sein?
I do want a good grand piano sound and some additional sounds to play and experiment with.
(8) Welche Erwartungen stellst du an die Soundqualität?
[ ] Naja, man soll schon das Klavier vom Banjo unterscheiden können...
[ ] Gute Sounds
[ ] Nur das Allerbeste!
[X] Besonders wichtige Aspekte: Piano sounds must be really good, additional sounds should be oke.
(9) Welche Instrumenttypen suchst du / kommen für dich infrage?
[ ] Hardware-Klangerzeuger mit Tastatur
[ ] Hardware-Klangerzeuger ohne Tastatur (Rack)
[ ] MIDI-Masterkeyboard
[ ] Software-Klangerzeuger
(10) Welche Features sind die besonders wichtig?
[X] Standard-Sounds (Piano, E-Piano, Orgeln, Streicher, Bläser)
[ ] Synthese / Soundbearbeitung
[ ] Sampling
[ ] Sequencing
[ ] Begleitautomatik
[ ] Masterkeyboardeigenschaften
[ ] Orgeldrawbars
[ ] Lesliesimulation
[ ] Eingebaute Lautsprecher
[ ] Eingebaute Effekte (falls gewünscht, konkret: __________)
[ ] sonstiges: ________________________________________
(11) Welche Tastaturgrößen kommen für die infrage?
[ ] 25
[ ] 37
[ ] 49
[ ] 61 (Standardgröße Keyboards/Orgeln)
[ ] 73/76
[X] 88 (Standardgröße Klavier)
(12) Welche Tastaturgewichtungen- und Typen kommen für dich infrage?
[ ] ungewichtet
[ ] (leicht-)gewichtet
[ ] Waterfall
[ ] Hammermechanik (eher schwer oder leicht gewichtet? ___________)
(13) Hast du bestimmte Ansprüche an die Optik? (klavierähnliches Aussehen, wohnzimmertauglich, cooles Design...)
__________________________________________________
(14) Sonst noch was? Extrawünsche?
__________________________________________________
I'll briefly explain my situation. The last year I've been practicing on a Yamaha-PSR290. I bought this keyboard because I thought it was good enough until I should go buy a decent piano. The last months I came to realize that the PSR290 just isn't a good piano replacement. Although I don't have any complaints about the sound, the keys are ultralight and non weighted ( thus making practice harder sometimes, it improves the chance of you pressing the wrong buttons) and the internal speakers are bad. This just isn't a good keyboard for a beginner pianist: you can't possibly put any emotion in the music with these keys. So I decided to buy a proper piano. Now some of you might think: Das ist dumm, such noob with a 1400 euro piano. Well, I tend to agree. But I don't have a high budget. I know that if I buy such a thing I will have to deal with it for the next 15 years. That's why I'm buying a decent piano which seems expensive at first, but it's better than buying a cheap ass piano and still have to buy a more expensive one.
Oke, that wasn't very brief. The problem is this: I'm a total newb. From what I've seen and heard the Roland FP-7 and the Kurzweil sp2x are both good instruments. What I like about the Roland is this:
1. I love the piano sound.
2. Built in speakers are decent.
3. Very praktisch, doesn't take much space.
What I don't like about the Roland:
1. Built in speakers are decent, but could be better.
I've never heard the Kurzweil sp2x in action ( only on internet) so I can't judge the sound, but I like this about it:
1. It's cheaper.
2. I can tell from reviews that the kurzweil piano sound is also gut.
3. Design, it looks great.
Now, when it comes to finances they are equally expensive. For 1400 euro's I get this
1. Roland FP-7 ( inkl. sustain pedahl)
2. Design stander
3. Kopfhorer
For 1400 euro's I get
1. Kurzweil sp2x
2. Roland dp 8 sustain pedahl
3. K&M 18880 stander
4. 2X the snake SPP2030 trs cables
5. Ein paar Samson Resolve 65A abhormonitore
6. Ein paar QUIK LOK BS300 monitorstativen
Can you tell me what's the best solution for me?
Please help this newb out, if you do, I'll be supporting the deutsche Mannschaft in 2008.
Vielen dank,
Gino
Aus holland
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